Seems I still come off too strong, all have bad things to em, I'm no more perfect or clean than a robber stealing from a manure plant. Just that all have sinned and fall short....Romans 3:23
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

And also Romans 3:27
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
So we all need help, there is too much war between people, arg, it isn't a war from you to me, its a war of good vs ba, it is bigger than that. That is what allows us to persevere, its bigger than us and we each need each other; not to fight and hate.... Others have and go through more than what has hurt us, anyways, I dunno. Maybe I'm outta my mind, Dan. Maybe missing the point.